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  What's the point of being a JW if you are not guaranteed of paradise anyway

  by inquirer in

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  i remember talks at the "kingdom ministry" meeting.

  and at times, you'd hear talks (in a past tense) about why so and so didn't make it in paradise.

  and they'd say dumb things like "oh, he pinoeered, he gave good talks, but he didn't make it because he was a drinker.

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  Freedom Fighter

  This is a question I've thought about too. Most religions have a 'carrot' for their believers, be it heaven, re-incarnation or the JW paradise earth. As we know, this is not a new concept and was used by the ancient Greeks, Romans, etc., to good effect.

  This invites the following questions - does this mean that people following a religion are doing it for reasons of self interest/preservation? Or - is their relationship with their God central to their faith and any 'carrots' are viewed as a bonus? As JWs are told continually that Jehovah can read their heart then surely he would see the extent of their selfishness, so in effect you would be spiritually 'rumbled'.

  My own view is that you would have hoardes of people, particularly young people who would abandon the JWs, as there would be pain with no gain. From my own observations at my old KH, the majority of people appeared to be attracted to the JWs because this paradise earth would fix all their problems, illnesses etc., that they couldn't cope with in the real world. Take this cure all away and their really isn't much incentive left.

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  Virtual Bartender

  by funkyderek in

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  this is so beautiful i could cry!.

  http://www.virtualbartender.beer.com/vb2/

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  Freedom Fighter

  Awww - what about something for the girls - - not fair

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  Brits. Will you vote in next month's General Election?

  by nicolaou in

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  as everyone had guessed, the election has been set for may 5th.

  personally, this is my first opportunity 'post wt mind-control' to vote for our next government.

  i don't suppose that i will - 40 years of 'neutrality' and non-involvement have rather flattened my desire to take part in political change.. how about you?

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  I always vote although I am of the view that the major parties only offer the same old same old. I use my vote out of principle, and like Scotsman, I am entitled to moan afterwards!

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  M y Parents replied for non family business! hurray!

  by Crumpet in

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  anyone who remembered my earlier posting saying how i had texted my parents thanking them on my birthday for giving me life and telling them that i was happy here is part 2!

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  Hi Crumpet

  Like everyone else I'm delighted for you! LT is right, take it slow and steady. I know its tempting to tell them everything you know about the WTS but this can back fire and put things back to square one.

  This is a terrific breakthrough and gives you somewhere to start building. I hope others on the board ina similar situation get their breakthrough soon too!

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  Number of magazines trashed by Publishers

  by Nosferatu in

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  this was in the "dumbed down awake!

  " thread:sure enough, the figure represents the number of magazines printed, not circulated.

  it makes me wonder if the average magazine placements recorded in the km each month is actually magazines placed or the number of magazines printed, or shipped out of bethel.. .

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  Crumpet wrote:

  "Ihopeyouenjoyed the lastmagazinesibroughtyou and since you have a lovely garden/adog/beautifulhome/birdI thoughtyoumaybeinterestedinthearticleinourlatestcopyoftheawakewhichtalksaboutjustthat......anditsforasmallcontributionof25p"

  I'm sitting here in tears of laughter.....I remember the same spiel so well. My mother has literally stacks of magazines, she feels really uneasy about putting them in the bin, as if she is committing a heinous crime.

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  My non combatant Action Man

  by mtbatoon in

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  my non combatant action man.

  he never went to war.

  my friends had germans, tanks and jeeps.

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  Freedom Fighter

  Brilliant - I always thought Action Man was really cute in a rugged kind of a way. I also liked the way there were different types to choose from. I liked the jet black haired one best, and if he had the swivelling eyes as well - *swoon*

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  craft corner deathmatch..

  by candidlynuts in

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  anyone seen this on style network?.

  its great.. 2 crafters have to compete in 2 challenges......the winner then goes against a super crafter.. the stage is a cage, and the host is a wwf type announcer .. wheres my glue gun?

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  How Clean is Your House is brilliant. They also do a series on 'well to do' people who are, as we say in Scotland very clatty in their personal habits, i.e. poor hygiene. It's called Too Posh to Wash. There was a girl on it who hadn't washed her bra in about 2 years!!!!! It was a whole series of dirty people, who had to be shown how to wash and look after themselves! Jeezo.....

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  Do you keep hitting the snooze button in the morning?

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2005/tech/04/04/spark.clocky/index.html.

  clever clock stops you sleeping late.

  (cnn) -- if you are not a morning person and find it difficult to get out of bed, then "clocky" might be the thing to improve the start of your day.. a scientist at the massachusetts institute of technology (mit) has invented the clever device, which will defy even the most determined alarm clock "snoozers.".

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  I definitely need one of those - I hate it when my alarm clock goes off in the middle of a dream - makes me groggy for the rest of the day.

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  Are there any Masons on this forum?

  by Brummie in

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  rumour has it that there are?

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  Freedom Fighter

  In Scotland there is an added religious element - in general, the Masons are regarded to be an almost exclusively Protestant, whereas Catholics are supposed to join their equivalent organisation The Knights of Saint Columba.

  I would say that there is a lot of cynicism regarding these types of orgs in Scotland, their members are perceived to join because of what they can gain personally.

  Kay_Kay made a point about the Eastern Star - the female equivalent. Over here the Eastern Star is packed full of 50+ stalwarts who spend their time making jam and knitting. They wouldn't be any good for career enhancement, although you could end up being able to make a lighter than air sponge.

  I often wonder if these types of organisations exist because men want to recreate the secret gangs and rituals of their boyhood?

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  I am an official apostate.....nearly.. and I'm loving it!!!!!!

  by Gill in

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  today, whilst shopping, i ran into an old school friend of mine that i had been quite close to.

  i used to write her 'sick' notes for her, so as you can imagine, we're friends forever now.. anyway, she tells me that she is studying with jehovah's witnesses again.

  i think she expected me to be thrilled with this news.

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  Freedom Fighter

  Well done Gill! Brilliant job - I think you should now go and serve where the need is greater...LOL!

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